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I agree...there is some danger in that. You have to be discrete. There are mounts you can put on your car window to take photos in those situations.  Speaking of police, many jobs have danger and needs to be considered before you decide to do it. Policemen have a dangerous job, too.  It should be reflected in your fee. If it's not worth it, remember, being an appraiser is an option.


Jesus, you couldn't be more wrong.  
The police have specific laws, just for them, exempting them from the same laws you must follow.  That is a horrible comparison.  
Wouldn't it make more sense to follow the laws in place.  If your ignorant of the laws, your time would be better served comprehending them.

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I agree that you shouldn't inspect while driving and taking a photo. I have always been against that. That didn't prove a thing about safely pulling over to inspect the property from the street and take a photo on a typical residential road.  It's legal and it's safe.



Do you mind quoting the law that makes this legal and safe?
I'm guessing I'll be waiting a long time....

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If cars are parked beside the road, there's a pretty good chance that it is legal and safe.  Obviously if it's on a double lane street with no parking available off of the side, the you have to park elsewhere.  In residential streets, typically parking is allowed on the street and you can pull over and take the shot. Feel free to pull the key out of the ignition if you think it's a violation.

And my comparison to police is that there are dangers involved with that job.  There are dangers involved with many jobs just as there are some dangers with appraising. You decided to take one of those jobs, then you have decided to take those risks and have no room to complain.  If you don't like it, get into a different line of work that you're more comfortable with.

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If cars are parked beside the road, there's a pretty good chance that it is legal and safe.  Obviously if it's on a double lane street with no parking available off of the side, the you have to park elsewhere.  In residential streets, typically parking is allowed on the street and you can pull over and take the shot. Feel free to pull the key out of the ignition if you think it's a violation.

And my comparison to police is that there are dangers involved with that job.  There are dangers involved with many jobs just as there are some dangers with appraising. You decided to take one of those jobs, then you have decided to take those risks and have no room to complain.  If you don't like it, get into a different line of work that you're more comfortable with.


Hey genius, how often can you park beside the road? It ain't often, if ever. And even then, you're most likely trespassing.
Sorry you lose.

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Hey genius, how often can you park beside the road? It ain't often, if ever. And even then, you're most likely trespassing. Sorry you lose.

Trespassing???  LOL...hey genius, the road isn't part of your property.  Trespass...pfft

Here's a residential street in a burb of Atlanta.  Pull over like all those legal folks are doing, snap a photo, do your inspection, go to you next one. Now please, stop your whining.  Find a new job if you can't take such big, terrible, high stress job requirements like taking a photo of a house, lol.

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Trespassing???  LOL...hey genius, the road isn't part of your property.  Trespass...pfft

Here's a residential street in a burb of Atlanta.  Pull over like all those legal folks are doing, snap a photo, do your inspection, go to you next one. Now please, stop your whining.  Find a new job if you can't take such big, terrible, high stress job requirements like taking a photo of a house, lol.



No need to "whine" when you have the law and facts on your side.  You can't even keep your lie straight...
No one said the "road" was part of the property.  You said pull "beside" the road.  Who said the cars in the photo are parked?
Like we've proven, and you keep validating, there is not a legal way to get photos unless your hire a driver.
Now since you've proven you can't follow driving and traffic laws, you should turn in your driving license.

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No need to "whine" when you have the law and facts on your side.  You can't even keep your lie straight...
No one said the "road" was part of the property.  You said pull "beside" the road.  Who said the cars in the photo are parked?

I think you know what I meant since I stated earlier "parked safely on the side of the road" just like the cars parked in that photo. 

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 Who said the cars in the photo are parked?

You're getting more and more ridiculous...yeah, there towing each other with about 12 inches of chain.  ROTFL


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I think you know what I meant since I stated earlier "parked safely on the side of the road" just like the cars parked in that photo. 


You're getting more and more ridiculous...yeah, there towing each other with about 12 inches of chain.  ROTFL



Sections of Georgia Parking Law

Each jurisdiction within the state of Georgia has its own local ordinances, but any of the Georgia parking laws in this section applies to all jurisdictions.  Some common violations are usually associated with breaking a Georgia parking law under the following sections of code: 

46-6-203

This code states that any of the following types of parking are illegal: 

• on the roadway side of any vehicle stopped or parked at a curb on the street

• on the sidewalk

• within an intersection

• on a crosswalk

• between a safety zone or within 30 feet of the ends of the safety zone

• alongside or opposite of any street excavations that would obstruct traffic 

• on a bridge, in a tunnel, or on any elevated structure of highway 

• on any railroad tracks

• on any controlled-access highway

• in the areas between a divided highway, including crossovers 

• at any place where signs prohibit parking or stopping

• in front of a public driveway

• within 15 of a fire hydrant

• within 20 feet of a crosswalk 

• within 30 feet of a stop sign, flashing signal, or traffic light 

• within 20 feet of a fire station or 75 feet if the fire stations posts a sign 

• within 50 feet of a railroad crossing unless loading or unloading 

40-6-202

This GA parking law states that nobody can park a car outside of a business or residential district if there is a convenient place to pull off of the roadway.  If there is not an appropriate place to pull off, this Georgia parking law states the car cannot impede traffic in any way.  



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How's that for ridiculous.... 
I just spoon-feed you the law.
It's your turn to impress us with your fake, unproven, and reckless answer.


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Nothing of what I said is against any of that.
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Nothing of what I said is against any of that.


What planet do live on captain fruit loop? 

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Show me where I conflicted with any of that?  Those cars parked are impeding traffic.  If they were, the parking tickets would be on every car, as that is a huge revenue.   But they aren't getting ticketed, so there you go Captain

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"Impede" - look it up.
"In any way" - might be tricky for you...but it means, In any freakin way!
Laws take precedence over request, requirements, or rules.
Being an appraiser does not exempt you from the law.
You're welcome.

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It's not impeding traffic...they can get through just fine...if they were, they would get ticketed and towed.  Sorry, nice try.
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Impede :
delay or prevent (someone or something) by obstructing them; hinder.


Your parked vehicle, on the street, is impeding the regular flow of traffic when 2 opposing vehicles can't use the street.
Care to try again?

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No, that's not how the law sees it.  .if they were, they would get ticketed and towed.  Sorry, nice try. 
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Who gives a $hit at this point. Take your own photo or use MLS. Whatever helps you sleep better at night.  Personally, I don't like impeding traffic. Then again anyone of us could have a chimp snap comp photos for us NONE THE WISER.

These borrowers don't give a crap. They look at the value that's all. Good value THANKS BUDDY. Bad value. FU AHOLE.

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No, that's not how the law sees it.  .if they were, they would get ticketed and towed.  Sorry, nice try. 




Yes, it is.
I just showed you the law.
You have shown me nothing, nada, zero, zilch.

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Who gives a $hit at this point. Take you own photo or use MLS. Whatever helps you sleep better at night.  Personally, I don't like impeding traffic. Then again anyone of us could have a chimp snap comp photos for us NONE THE WISER.

These borrowers don't give a crap. They look at the value that's all. Good value THANKS BUDDY. Bad value. FU AHOLE.

BC


It's a glitch in the process that should have been addressed a long time ago.
I guarante 2 out of 3 appraisers follow a mentor's misunderstandings.

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Its not an issue of whether you can find a place to park.... The issue revolves around distracted driving.  I personally cannot figure out how to drive around looking for a house when 99% of the address numbers are missing or not legible, watch for pedestrians, look for a safe place to photograph a specific house all while taking notes without being distracted.

Will you get a ticket for taking a photo or pulling over on the side of the street???? Most likely not unless you are swerving or doing something obvious.  But god forbid you hit a child, or get into an accident... you will do jail time and your distraction will play a significant part of the amount of money you will be expected to crap out.

Its kinda like drinking a beer.  Its not legal to drink and drive at the same time.  Maybe you are not drunk and maybe you took only one sip.  No one is going to pull you over unless you are being obvious.  But god forbid you happen to run over a child or hit something else... that beer in your hand is going to be very significant even if you just cracked the top and took one sip.

Distracted driving is no joke.  Cops and society are starting to take is seriously.  It is an issue I have preached about for a while, but now there are actual laws addressing it.

Is it possible to drive distracted and get away with it???? Sure.  I have done it thousands of times.  Is is OK for a client or a GSE or anyone affiliated with a federally related transaction to hire us to intentionally violate ANY law?  NO.  It is OK to put commentary in your reports regarding the distracted driving laws.  It is OK to do your due dilligence and provide credible reports without putting yourself or others into danger and without violating any laws.  It is also OK to understand that nowhere in the SOW of FNMA or FHA does it say or imply that you MUST drive by ANY comp.

Cops, Mailmen, Trash Drivers, Taxi Drivers, etc all have very specific laws and variances that appraisers do not have.  This is done for a reason.  A cop is allowed to drive distracted.  A mailman is immune from any state or local traffic laws.  Trash drivers have the right of way in most jurisdictions and are required to have bright flashing lights.  Taxi Drivers have specific variances referencing the pickup and drop off of passengers.  There are no loopholes for appraisers.  The tax assessor has a legal right to trespass onto your land to take a photo of your house.  We don't.  



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Yes, it is. I just showed you the law. You have shown me nothing, nada, zero, zilch.

No, it's not, hence why you don't see tickets on cars parked in residential - nothing, nada, zero, zilch. 

Residential roads are built wide enough to handle parked cars and if they aren't wide enough, you will see no parking signs.

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 The issue revolves around distracted driving.

A mailman, trash drivers, taxis, pizza delivery, etc are not immune to "distracted driving", yet they seem to manage finding addresses just fine. And even police are not "immune" from the dangers of distracted driving.  And if any of those driver occupations complained about the danger of looking for a house address, they'd get this response, "Find a different job if you can't handle it"......sounds like an appropriate suggestion.

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Keep watching the BillDing's lies fall.........


2010 Georgia Code
TITLE 40 - MOTOR VEHICLES AND TRAFFIC
CHAPTER 6 - UNIFORM RULES OF THE ROAD
ARTICLE 11 - MISCELLANEOUS PROVISIONS
§ 40-6-241.2 - Writing, sending, or reading text based communication while operating motor vehicle prohibited; exceptions; penalties for violation

O.C.G.A. 40-6-241.2 (2010)
40-6-241.2. Writing, sending, or reading text based communication while operating motor vehicle prohibited; exceptions; penalties for violation 


(a) As used in the Code section, the term "wireless telecommunications device" means a cellular telephone, a text messaging device, a personal digital assistant, a stand alone computer, or any other substantially similar wireless device that is used to initiate or receive a wireless communication with another person. It does not include citizens band radios, citizens band radio hybrids, commercial two-way radio communication devices, subscription based emergency communications, in-vehicle security, navigation devices, and remote diagnostics systems, or amateur or ham radio devices.

(b) No person who is 18 years of age or older or who has a Class C license shall operate a motor vehicle on any public road or highway of this state while using a wireless telecommunications device to write, send, or read any text based communication, including but not limited to a text message, instant message, e-mail, or Internet data.

(c) The provisions of this Code section shall not apply to:

(1) A person reporting a traffic accident, medical emergency, fire, serious road hazard, or a situation in which the person reasonably believes a person's health or safety is in immediate jeopardy;

(2) A person reporting the perpetration or potential perpetration of a crime;

(3) A public utility employee or contractor acting within the scope of his or her employment when responding to a public utility emergency;

(4) A law enforcement officer, firefighter, emergency medical services personnel, ambulance driver, or other similarly employed public safety first responder during the performance of his or her official duties; or

(5) A person engaging in wireless communication while in a motor vehicle which is lawfully parked.

(d) Any conviction for a violation of the provisions of this Code section shall be a misdemeanor punishable by a fine of $150.00. The provisions of Chapter 11 of Title 17 and any other provision of law to the contrary notwithstanding, the costs of such prosecution shall not be taxed nor shall any additional penalty, fee, or surcharge to a fine for such offense be assessed against a person for conviction thereof. The court imposing such fine shall forward a record of the disposition to the Department of Driver Services. Any violation of this Code section shall constitute a separate offense.









 


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BILL DING has to be either from an AMC or has to be a lender.  My pizza delivery pulls in my driveway because I know he is coming to deliver my pizza, how is that like taking a comp pic of some stranger's house? What appraiser would be so silly!
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2010 Georgia Code
TITLE 40 - MOTOR VEHICLES AND TRAFFIC
CHAPTER 6 - UNIFORM RULES OF THE ROAD
ARTICLE 11 - MISCELLANEOUS PROVISIONS
§ 40-6-241.2 - Writing, sending, or reading text based communication while operating motor vehicle prohibited; exceptions; penalties for violation

(b) No person who is 18 years of age or older or who has a Class C license shall operate a motor vehicle on any public road or highway of this state while using a wireless telecommunications device to write, send, or read any text based communication, including but not limited to a text message, instant message, e-mail, or Internet data.


No problem.  I've said time and time again, don't take photos while operating your vehicle.  Glad we're on the same page.

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BILL DING has to be either from an AMC or has to be a lender.  My pizza delivery pulls in my driveway because I know he is coming to deliver my pizza, how is that like taking a comp pic of some stranger's house? What appraiser would be so silly!

LOL...yeah, I'm an amc or a lender.  [rofl]

What if your driveway is full, or you don't have a drive way, or blocked?  Do they not deliver your pizza?  Ever have a party?  Where do they park?  Oh yeah...on the street where they're legally allowed to park.   See the photo of the residential street in post 57 above if you're still confused.

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No problem.  I've said time and time again, don't take photos while operating your vehicle.  Glad we're on the same page.


LOL...yeah, I'm an amc or a lender.  [rofl]

What if your driveway is full, or you don't have a drive way, or blocked?  Do they not deliver your pizza?  Ever have a party?  Where do they park?  Oh yeah...on the street where they're legally allowed to park.   See the photo of the residential street in post 57 above if you're still confused.


You do know that every car you see on google earth is not parked, right???  It called a picture.  What it does is snaps a photo at a certain point in time.  They also use layering photos.  I know this might be hard to grasp, but look at how the street lines go on top of the cars.

A street with legal parking that does not impede traffic...
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This one is not ok, it is impeding traffic you dumb ass.

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BILL DING has to be either from an AMC or has to be a lender.  My pizza delivery pulls in my driveway because I know he is coming to deliver my pizza, how is that like taking a comp pic of some stranger's house? What appraiser would be so silly!


Oh no doubt!   He is a corelogic AMC spy hired by the Obama administration with ties to LGBT and BLM.  [sneaky]
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No problem.  I've said time and time again, don't take photos while operating your vehicle.  Glad we're on the same page.


LOL...yeah, I'm an amc or a lender.  [rofl]

What if your driveway is full, or you don't have a drive way, or blocked?  Do they not deliver your pizza?  Ever have a party?  Where do they park?  Oh yeah...on the street where they're legally allowed to park.   See the photo of the residential street in post 57 above if you're still confused.


Whatever the Pizza man does must be legal...I mean, Come-onnnn.... Its the Pizza Man.  Better ingredients.... Better Pizza!!!!

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Oh no doubt!   He is a corelogic AMC spy hired by the Obama administration with ties to LGBT and BLM.  [sneaky]
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and while everyone is freaking out about whether or not someone took a comp photo on the day they inspected the property, Freddie Mac is just going to let lenders make loans WITHOUT an appraisal!  
Come on folks, can you not see how silly that is!
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