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RubberStamp

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From our appraiser's coalition....

Unfortunately, this all needed to happen about 8 years ago.  Can we pry back enough influence to save the profession?  Time will tell.  IMHO this is all set up for show..   by the likes of Core Logic and such..  to keep duping our aged and technologically overmatched leadership into looking one way..   when they will be escaping with 90% of our fees the other.  So they set a cap now..   the cap moves when they say it will move.  We have no real influence. 

These meetings are to pacify us to think we are all going to be ok - because if we stood up together we could stop economic growth in its tracks. And that would get the attention of the President, congress and the public.  We always could.  They do just enough to keep us divided..  They need more time to get a stronger strangle hold on our profession through trial and error of their simulated automated models to make sure all of our uniting power is drained.  To figure out who will do the inspections for cheapest.  To see how many appraisers will put their license on the line, sell out, and do the desktops USPAP compliant so this hybrid product can be insured.. or, if it fails, appraisers can be blamed again.

Then they will unveil their real agenda.  You see unless we are acting as one body we truly have zero influence and they know this.  Only one body could tell the less educated or shorter sighted among us that we will not complete hybrid orders.  We will not tolerate someone else collecting our data for us.  You want our stamp - you order a full appraisal. Only a united front could address every AMC's attempt to micro manage us and deem it "acceptable, we'll work with you" or "Nope - unacceptable".

This meeting is a Trojan horse.  "Come and talk to us - let us keep you close by and through your ignorance we'll learn more about your plans and that way we can always be one step ahead of you"  The hour glass has been running.. and it is almost out. 

Are we going to be a buggy whip?  Or a piston?
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You may have heard the expression “if you do not have a seat at the table, you are on the menu.” VaCAP can honestly state, appraisers are not on the menu. 

Over the past several weeks, members of the Network (NSAO), which has now grown to 28 state organizations, have been recapping the events that transpired at the meetings in Washington D.C. last month. These meetings consisted of the FHFA meeting, the NSAO meeting, the ASC meeting, and the AARO conference.

Most state organizations participated and many individual appraisers attended.  The support for the appraisal profession was strong.  Appraisers have changed the dialogue significantly from a few years ago. Regulators no longer view appraisers in torn jeans and flip flops; an image portrayed by some bad players for personal gain. The professionalism we all have was conveyed with professional attire, professional attitudes and professional conduct. Things we do each and every day.  

Discussions were frequent and informative. Appraisers were presenters and other participants eagerly listened. Problems presented were addressed with solutions.  Frank Gregoire, an appraiser and advocate for the profession, presented with the theme: “The appraisal house is in order, the issues are on the mortgage side” When you think about this statement, private clients do not have the issues the mortgage clients have. The appraisal process works. 

Fannie and Freddie provided some insight into the PIW and ACE programs. They have a cap of 8% of the loans that can be offered an “opt out” option. Currently, only 2-3 % is being offered and of those being offered, only 40% of borrowers accept them.  The statement was made “appraisers are important and we will continue to use them.” 

At the FHFA meeting, there were numerous round table discussions. Members of the committee sat at tables with appraisers and lenders. Each FHFA member had a list of questions. Appraisers were the guest of honor and they wanted to hear from appraisers. CoreLogic, the moderator, the GSEs, Fannie and Freddie all remained quiet.   

At the NSAO meeting, each state in attendance gave an update of events in their home state. Many ideas were shared and some solutions offered.  There was not one person in that meeting who did not participate. Appraisers helping Appraisers. 

 A roundtable discussion also took place at the NSAO meeting. Sehar Siddiqi, the National Association of Realtors, Sharon Whitaker, American Bankers Association, and Jessica Lynch, the National Association of Home Builders were our guest. A professional exchange of problems and solutions occurred for all to consider.  Appraisers, once again were presented as the professionals we are. 

Steve Cannon, the attorney representing Louisiana against the FTC complaint, gave a presentation on antitrust issues and how we can protect ourselves. He also gave a brief history of the events of the Louisiana case. 

The Appraisal Standards Board meeting provided an update on things coming down the road. Much of the discussion revolved around USPAP changes for 2020-2021 and exposure drafts. 

The AARO conference was another strong showing of professional appraisers. Debbie Jones, an appraiser from South Carolina, led a committee and presentation on streamlining the process to obtain your license once all the documents have been submitted. Lots of positive terminology during the conference. 

Some highlights on appraisal independence: 

Penny Reid, (Wells Fargo) “Credit and appraisals must be independent” 

Jim Amorin, (Appraisal Institute) “Supports C& R fees and appraisal independence” 

Frank Gregoire (Florida)   “We need unbiased appraisals” 

The President of AARO, Craig Steinly, is an appraiser:  “Appraisers are welcomed and encouraged to participate in AARO conferences.  Appraisers are the experts in their profession. “ 

If you are not a member of VaCAP or any other state organization, you should join. The state organizations are changing the landscape and we need your participation to continue the profession in a positive direction. We are now viewed as the solution, not the problem. 

 If your state does not have an organization, reach out to us; there are many who will help you get started. 

Thank you to all who support VaCAP and our profession. 


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We argue this: Meanwhile the agent's assistant just did 5 unofficial appraisal inspections they paired with a Zestimate and granted 90% LTV - all guaranteed no buy back.
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Why doesn't Georgia have a coalition?
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Good question..   Our coalitions should have coalitions..   I know its a pipe dream but if our state boards took a more active role in coordinating with each other..  cooperating and policing our opponents rather than just appraisers..  that is when REAL change could happen.  Their jobs are on the line as well..  but they think they are safe.   They could reject the notion of certified appraisers doing hybrid appraisals under the guise of USPAP.  Not could, should.

Meatloaf is correct that we can not be replaced.  I will add, yes we can as long as somebody decides that some combination of untrained inspection and big data is worth the risk.  We all know it isn't..  zero chance it can be as accurate..   but they are beginning to treat this like insurance..  or credit card fraud..    where they are just preparing to write off the damages. 

Except for the consumer.  They can seriously be duped.  But again nobody is looking out for the little guy.   Or the tax payer.  If we had coordinated representation they could be pounding the gavel on the basis of protecting the people and public interest. 

But instead we get made out like the criminals.  It's bizarro world and they are winning.

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Good question..   Our coalitions should have coalitions..   I know its a pipe dream but if our state boards took a more active role in coordinating with each other..  cooperating and policing our opponents rather than just appraisers..  that is when REAL change could happen.  Their jobs are on the line as well..  but they think they are safe.   They could reject the notion of certified appraisers doing hybrid appraisals under the guise of USPAP.  Not could, should.

Meatloaf is correct that we can not be replaced.  I will add, yes we can as long as somebody decides that some combination of untrained inspection and big data is worth the risk.  We all know it isn't..  zero chance it can be as accurate..   but they are beginning to treat this like insurance..  or credit card fraud..    where they are just preparing to write off the damages. 

Except for the consumer.  They can seriously be duped.  But again nobody is looking out for the little guy.   Or the tax payer.  If we had coordinated representation they could be pounding the gavel on the basis of protecting the people and public interest. 

But instead we get made out like the criminals.  It's bizarro world and they are winning.



Look at the "Board" as cops to be used against license holding appraisers.  Not advocates for appraisers in any way!  That is it in a nut shell.  This is what you get when you keep asking the government to step in. 
There will always be a new scam.  Our economy and market is designed to grow until bust.  We don't control the money or maybe we have gotten to close to the money...



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Look at the "Board" as cops to be used against license holding appraisers.  Not advocates for appraisers in any way!  That is it in a nut shell.  This is what you get when you keep asking the government to step in. 
There will always be a new scam.  Our economy and market is designed to grow until bust.  We don't control the money or maybe we have gotten to close to the money...




The industry suffers from control issues.  We are the only independent cog in the wheel.  Which by definition and design is necessary to keep honesty an order.  But due to our lack of representation that story never gets out so we get painted as the problem and written out of the program so the crooks can have their complete control. 

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