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A lender sent me this code. Does this mean that every home, regardless of age must have a smoke detector now?

https://law.justia.com/codes/georgia/2016/title-25/chapter-2/section-25-2-40/
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A lender sent me this code. Does this mean that every home, regardless of age must have a smoke detector now?

https://law.justia.com/codes/georgia/2016/title-25/chapter-2/section-25-2-40/

Doesn't change the "opinion of value". 
This should be part of a "Home Inspection".
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Amoore.

Do you know the difference between a smoke detector and a smoke alarm?

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I do now!



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Good.  Can you visually distinguish between the two?
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I do not understand laws as they are written.  I suppose that's why God invented lawyers.  It looks like any house built after June 30, 1987 must have a smoke detector.

This is not your problem.  Report that there is no smoke detector and let it go.  If the lender wants a smoke detector, it's their problem.  I cannot distinguish between a smoke detector and smoke alarm.

In my new house, the builder put in several smoke "thingies".  I think smoke detectors.  ADT put in the security system and a single smoke "thingie" on the second floor.  The ADT one alerts the fire department (and me).  Of course, the house will be gone by the time anybody gets there. 
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This is my point.

I have seen smoke alarms and smoke detectors and heat detectors and CO detectors and door bells and security cameras and intercom speakers all look identical.

When you get up close to read what it says on it it says "DO NOT PAINT".  So looking closely does no good.

In my reports I refuse to use the words smoke detector or smoke alarm.  I put a picture of any device that MAY be either a smoke detector, smoke alarm or CO detector.

Back when I used to fly, we had CO detectors in the cockpit.  It was a little piece of film inside a piece of paper with a hole in it.  When it turned green (I thinK) that meant the CO levels were too high.  There was no ALARM.  Is this sufficient for a house?  Who the hell knows.

Be careful with this stuff... there is potential for you to get into lots of trouble.

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Thankfully, I have very few clients that ask for smoke detectors or CO detectors, but I usually can't tell the difference by looking at them....
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I never used to look or care.  But recently one of my better clients started requiring a statement about the presence of smoke alarms/co detectors.  And since a lot of other minor clients want it as well and its often due to a revision request that forces me to go back to the engagement letter and scour it for an hour to show them there is no requirement in their engagement letter... you know the drill.

So I just have a standard comment and I take a picture of ANYTHING that MIGHT be a smoke detector, smoke alarm, or CO detector and let the client figure it out.  I don't label the "device' but I do indicate which room it is in.

Since I have actually started paying attention... I realize more than ever that these things are often missing, removed, chirping due to a dead battery, or indistinguishable from a million other devices.

I was in a house yesterday that had so many different thingies I couldn't tell what was what.  Sooooo.... the client gets a picture of all of it.

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You're asking me about smoke detectors?  Does that mean that you ask the home inspector for market value?
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I was in a house yesterday that had so many different thingies I couldn't tell what was what.  Sooooo.... the client gets a picture of all of it.

yeah...that's about as in depth as I get, too

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Usually there is at least one that doesn't work...I take a picture and say the detectors are not working.
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I once did a house that had a house fire that was started BY THE DETECTOR.

There was a melted detector still stuck to the wall with soot all around it.

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I never used to look or care.  But recently one of my better clients started requiring a statement about the presence of smoke alarms/co detectors.  And since a lot of other minor clients want it as well and its often due to a revision request that forces me to go back to the engagement letter and scour it for an hour to show them there is no requirement in their engagement letter... you know the drill.

So I just have a standard comment and I take a picture of ANYTHING that MIGHT be a smoke detector, smoke alarm, or CO detector and let the client figure it out.  I don't label the "device' but I do indicate which room it is in.

Since I have actually started paying attention... I realize more than ever that these things are often missing, removed, chirping due to a dead battery, or indistinguishable from a million other devices.

I was in a house yesterday that had so many different thingies I couldn't tell what was what.  Sooooo.... the client gets a picture of all of it.



Jody,  This goes against all of your "scope creep" rants.  If you give it to everyone free, all appraisers will be expected to provide it for free!
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Jody,  This goes against all of your "scope creep" rants.  If you give it to everyone free, all appraisers will be expected to provide it for free!


I agree.  But finding missing smoke detectors can make me extra money on ocassion....


What the hell is this anyway?


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Seriously... What the hell is it?
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To your point...how the hell are we supposed to know??  Just don't paint it.  Yankee Candle says it might be sparkling cinnamon.  Or the doorbell.  Could be the Clapper.  Maybe it's an old school Alexa.  Who knows?
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Im gonna go with old school Alexa.

Truth is, this house was built in 1999.... So it can't be nearly as ancient as it looks.  

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I think that's Bane's face mask.
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I did a google image search.  Google says its best guess is a smoke detector.  Never mind the fact that this device was about 3 feet from what appears to also be a smoke detector.

There are no images on google that look remotely like this thing.  I honestly have no idea what it is.  This isn't in an ancient house, it was built in 1999 and it is just a typical 1700 sf vinyl house so nothing fancy or uncommon should be here.

But check out this smoke detector

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